Joe Quattrone 00:34
Welcome to the fuzziest podcast, the kind of server show, I’m your host, Joey Q. And I’m soon to be joined by some pretty amazing co-hosts and guests. As always, we’ll have JM Guthrie here, my partner in crime. And we’ve also got my boy Kary Youman stopping by on this episode. But I’m really excited to get into our episode, we’ve got a gentleman hailing from Los Angeles named Sherman Perryman, who is the man behind the militant grind, which is something that’s very, very similar to MeTotal. So you guys are in for an amazing treat. Let’s get into the show. Guys, we just got off of the podcast with my man, Sherman Perriman, out in LA, militant grind. What do you think our audience can expect to receive in this episode?

JM Guthrie 01:26
Yeah, I’ll go first. You know, I think the thing that was really irrelevant to me really just sort of hit home was how close what we’ve been talking about with MeTotal. And the fact that it really starts with you, and finding that voice, to get you to continue going on a daily basis for that next better day, really ties to his story too, and what he’s after with the militant grind, and I’m excited to follow along his his next chapters, because he’s got a lot going on. And a really interesting cat.

Kary Youman 01:58
Yeah, I think just for me, and I feel like this is just kind of a thread for a lot of the guests we have, but you know, again, you know, Sherman just kind of talks about a little bit of a, you know, rough past growing up and having to work through some different emotional challenges. And yeah, just through his own practice, really just finding, you know, essentially his MeTotal. So I think people will be inspired just by his transformation. And, yeah, I mean, once you find it, you just gotta gotta go for it. I think people enjoy it.

Joe Quattrone 02:24
Yeah, Sherman works as a coach. And one of the things I thought was really relevant. And what he said was, as he’s probing in with his clients, trying to figure out how to help them, he really rewinds back to their youth. So you get a sense that he’s a little bit of like a psychologist, you know, it was like an armchair psychologist, and he’s really getting deep there with you to help, you know, honestly, to like, kind of figure out how to be a little bit more straight to the point with you and help you unlock what that thing is that needs to be unlocked, and then help hold you accountable for it. So you know, I think I hit it on the head. He’s got a lot of like MeTotal vibes and the whole militant grind thing. So I’m really excited to see how we can cross paths again in the near future. striving to be the best version of himself has always been Sherman Perelman’s guiding principle. Born and raised in Los Angeles, his journey has seen him wear many hats. He’s made his mark in the professional world working for national banks, leading commercial real estate firms, and excelling in project management and finance. Beyond the corporate realm, his entrepreneurial spirit has led him to establish multiple ventures. Yet his achievements aren’t confined to just business. At home, he takes pride in being a devoted husband and father to four wonderful children. His passions extend to physical wellness to he’s a fitness fanatic, having participated in numerous Spartan Races and various fitness challenges. Throughout his life, he felt the skepticism from family or personal self doubt. He’s not only persisted but thrived. Every hurdle from early memories of challenges in the gym, professional and personal accomplishment reminds him of resilience and determination militant grind under paraments. Stewardship isn’t just a brand, it’s a movement, a call to individuals everywhere to recognize and harness their untapped potential. It’s a vision that extends beyond personal achievement echoing into the realms of health, personal development and profound societal change. With every endeavor, Sherman Perryman, emerged as a beacon of resilience and empowerment from a background steeped in discipline and determination. This founder of militant grind didn’t start with high end deals. Instead, his entrepreneurial journey began with the humble aisles of his church selling cookies and internalizing invaluable lessons of grit and commerce. parametric education at Morehouse College in Atlanta, and the USC Ross program in real estate wasn’t just a formative time for his academic prowess. It was a period of grounding his future ambitions. His real world savvy and scholarly insights became his corner Don’t which caught the attention of his beloved city, featuring prominently in the Docu series Black Business Los Angeles. He stands as a testament to black entrepreneurial excellence, showcasing the brilliance often overlooked in the shadows of the metropolis. Yet Paramount isn’t solely defined by his business finesse. He’s an author whose seminal work from grit to greatness. Harnessing the five pillars of the militant grind encapsulates his philosophy for success beyond fiscal measures. As a lifestyle connoisseur he champions a harmonious cultivation of mind, body and soul, reflecting his holistic approach to success and well being militant grind under Perriman. Stewardship isn’t just a brand, it’s a movement, the call to individuals everywhere to recognize and harness their untapped potential. It’s a vision that extends beyond personal achievement, echoing into the realms of health, personal development and profound societal change. With every endeavor, Perriman solidifies his legacy, not merely as an entrepreneur, but as a catalyst for enduring transformative change. In his relentless pursuit, he doesn’t just capture the world’s attention. He inspires action. Sherman Perriman stands not solely as a successful individual, but as an emblem of unwavering spirit and transformative possibility. So Sherman, I actually came across your content because you’ve, you’ve been interviewed, or you’re interviewed a couple people that we’ve also talked to like, die and Nico, and stuff like that. So a lot of your stuff kind of resonated with us anyway. But just to give you some context, there were three guys that all kind of grew up together on the east coast in the suburbs of DC, a place called Reston, Virginia. We’re in our early 40s, now mid 40s. And we’ve been reconnecting a lot over the past few years, specifically around a mutual kind of underpinning in the fact that all three of us have quit drinking alcohol at various points in the past 10 years, actually, for carry. He’s the OG for like, 12 years or so heavyweight

JM Guthrie 07:01
champion of the world carry. Yeah. And

Joe Quattrone 07:05
Let me see, I’ve been free of alcohol now for about five and a half, six years. And JM is about two, a little over two right now. Jay, I’m

JM Guthrie 07:13
sorry, almost three years, man, almost three, B, two and a half.

Joe Quattrone 07:17
And so I’m over the hump. Yeah. So we, you know, we’ve kind of been kind of just rallying around that, and connecting on that and just kind of keeping each other motivated. We also have some commercial interest to last launch brands and stuff like that, as a collective. And as a team, we’ve created this mantra that we call MeTotal, it’s, you know, in short, it stands for, you know, excellence through temperance, or one better day at a time. But really celebrating clean living, being as temperate as possible, without alcohol, you know, not necessarily saying that we don’t consume cannabis and some other stuff every once in a while. But like, we usually try to espouse not doing anything in excess, trying to be as moderate and temporary with your lifestyle as possible, being as clean, and cogent and kind of, you know, clear headed as possible. For me, it’s super necessary, because I’ve got four kids, and JMS, three, carry, just got married, has his stepson that he’s dealing with as well and is in me and carries case we’re switching fields and businesses right now. So anyway, I just wanted to set that up for you. And let you know that the reason we created this podcast was because we wanted to create a community of like minded people. But we also want to celebrate stories of people that are doing amazing things and they’re not reliant upon substances and dependence and being dependent on things like alcohol. Because something that’s been very evident to us is that Hollywood and corporate America have really been championing things like alcohol over the years, and haven’t really been championing sobriety. But in our walks, we’ve all had, you know, a good amount of success in our careers, most of the very successful people we’ve ever been around, don’t drink alcohol, they’re, they like to wake up at four and be in the pool, swimming laps and getting the workout in before they have a high, high performance career. So really, we wanted to tell some stories about people that have a healthy relationship with alcohol. And, you know, I saw you and di connecting and I don’t know if you drink or not, but you seem to have a very level headed and a very clean approach to living and approaching the world. So that’s why

JM Guthrie 09:28
we wanted to have you on and something I’d add Sherman, like, our thesis with MeTotal is you can’t transform your body like you did. You can’t get more healthy from an exercise perspective. You can’t stop drinking, you can’t quit some other addictive substance if it doesn’t start with yourself, right? The reality is it starts with me. I couldn’t have stopped drinking if I wasn’t in it to win it for myself. And that’s where the whole mantra of MeTotal came from. There’s this idea of excellence from through temperance and this I Do you have living a clean and more vibrant life, but the reality and what we want help to help people to understand is, whether it’s their mental wellness, whether it’s addiction, whether it’s their physical fitness, it starts with you, you have to make that decision. And you have to stand in front of a mirror every day and say, we’re going to do this again. Because most of the time, it’s just you in that mirror, and nobody else to help. And the reality for each of our stories is, by having that reflection point by being able to understand and acknowledge that it starts with us. This mean total monster came and you know, so far, so good. And as Joe said, it’s one better day at a time, baby. That’s all we can do. Right? Excellent.

Joe Quattrone 10:39
So, just real quick before we launch into your story, because we do want to give our audience a little bit of backstory. If you’re listening in the audience, you’re tuning in to the fuzzy ish podcast, check it out, fuzzy ish, podcast.com If you want to check out other episodes, or if you want to connect with us on social media. But real quick, Sherman, before you jump into your backstory for our audience, how does that sit with you? Does that kind of we’re gonna get into the militant militant grind philosophy and a little bit, but does what you heard us talk about with MeTotal sound like a like minded, you know, kind of approach to what you’re doing in your lifestyle and over on your podcast?

Sherman Perryman 11:18
Oh, yeah, definitely, man. Because I mean, the whole aspect of clean living is just like what I’m about, you know, I don’t drink Soda, I’m very disciplined with my diet, you know, I don’t do gluten, I don’t do dairy. I don’t drink alcohol, you know, for numerous reasons, I don’t even drink caffeine, you know, I just stopped that. Because it’s too acidic. And it you know, basically, you know, I’ll be up all night. And I’ll feel like my digestive system works with that, I feel like, I took him some time to know myself, and know what I can deal with. And I’ve noticed that I can do things that like the average person can do, you know, some people can drink, and, you know, wake up and just go at it and be, you know, up to par me, I can’t do that, you know, some people could wake up, smoke a joint and go to work and be fine, I can’t do that, you know, so it’s just taking, you know, some the where the discipline QCon came at is like me knowing myself, and knowing what I can do, you know, our first live you will work with, it really became a problem in college, like, I would buy a small flask of E and J. And, you know, just have it all to myself. And the reason why I picked that alcohol is because it was cheap. And it got me drunk the fastest, you know, I didn’t drink alcohol, because it tasted good. I drank alcohol because I wanted to feel a certain kind of way, you know, and it was kind of like Dr. Jekyll and Mrs. Hyde with me, like I was a totally different person. You know, sometimes if I’m in an environment, just due to like me growing up in LA, and having post traumatic stress on some of the things I’ve been through in this environment, let’s say going to a party, and people are shooting inside of the party. And you know, everybody’s like, you know, falling over each other, trampling over each other, etc. So, if I’m drunk, I will go to a party, and I’ll automatically be aggressive and on guard. So say, if, if it was anything going on at a party, and all of my friends were there, that would know I was probably the one that started, you know, like, I’m talking about other than that, I’m a cool guy. I’m calm, you know, I respect everybody goofy, loving, but once I drank that alcohol, I just switched into a totally different person. You know, and I have stories for days, where it was just like, people will tell me like, you know, heart to heart like, Hey, man, you probably stopped drinking. Yeah, seriously, like, you have a problem. You probably shouldn’t do that anymore. And I will say no, it was like, say, like a dark, dark energy. Just overwhelms me when I train, you know, like, I’m talking like, I’ll have a guy walk in the living room one time and I have my brothers. They’re my friends. And I’m not even sure if he was talking to us or whatever. He just said, Who’s gonna get knocked out? And I just flipped, you know, I follow them like, or who I’m talking to, and what are you? What do you mean, who’s gonna get knocked down? I got super aggressive, you know, where it was just kinda like, people were like, What the hell was wrong with this guy? You know, but then other people were like, oh, man, we’re not paying attention to that guy. But then with me, it was kind of like, Nah, man, He disrespected me. You know, that’s, that’s out of pocket. And so. So after all of that happened, all that commotion happened. My brother had to drive me home because I was so drunk. Like, I was so faded, you know? And

JM Guthrie 14:50
hated me. Love that word. Let’s fade. Gary knows about getting a baited man. I’ll

Sherman Perryman 14:56
read this shirt off, right? Yeah, I mean, I gotta I got a story about, you know, like, story about that me ripped my shirt off. Let’s go. I like the Hulk. So, you know, I’m in college, I’m at the Alpha house in Atlanta, you know, it’s cold, it’s probably like 30 degrees. And I see a guy. And he, you know, I know, he’s talking stuff about me behind my back. And so, I have my friend next to me to the right of me and a guy walks up. And he’s and I know, um, you know, we’re friends, you know, but he doesn’t say anything to me, says something to my friend. And I just got offended. I just felt disrespected, right? And so I kind of walked up to him, and I was like, Hey, man, keep my name out your fucking mouth, or else there’s gonna be problems. And he was just shook. He was like, What? What? Fuck, that shriveled up? Fuck you. Thank you. Are you a bit that Allah and where I’m from? If you call a man a bitch, it’s automatic. Like you, you know, it’s about to go down. You know? That’s, that’s like an automatic file. So I was like, okay, for sure. And then I brought it up, was cool. So then one of my friends came up to me. And he was like, Hey, man, don’t get in a fight at our house. And I was like, okay, all right, whatever. So I walked outside, and I seen his friend. And I was like, Hey, man, where’s your guy yet? So he called him and then he came in, as soon as he came walking down the driveway, I took off on him, you know, I just was beating him up. You know what I mean? It and next thing, you know, the guys broke it off. And I’m super irate at the moment. I take my shirt, I rip it in half, I have my shirt off. Everybody’s looking at me. Like what the fuck is wrong with him? You know, it was like, I’m talking about like, this story was so big that like, people at school were walking up to me, and they were like, Hey, man, like, you really need to chill out, bro. Like, that’s not even a call for like, you know, that’s not you. They were basically like, Pep Talk to me, like my peers. And then, you know, two years later, I’m in New York on Wall Street Meeting up with some colleagues and stuff like that. And, you know, I’m just a totally different prayer. I’m sober. You know, I’m cool. And then one guy was I, hey, you went out got a gun to find the Alpha house, huh? That was you. And I was like, Oh my God, you know, and it was like, embarrassing moments that people really remember. Like, it’s stuck with them. You know, like, the way I will be acting. And so with that being said, I was like, You know what, man, like it was, you know, I got plenty stories, but it’s just like, it’s just like, You know what, this is something that turns you into somebody who you’re not and who you do not need to be. You know, it’s like, every time you touch it, something happens to you where it’s like, you’re not that person. You know, and when people come up to you in a sincere way, it does tell you like, Hey, you probably need to settle down. You probably should listen.

Kary Youman 17:55
Hmm, yeah, sure, miss, I was gonna ask you, um, you know, every hero has a journey. And you know, obviously, you’ve gone through yours. Looking at your website, you got the militant grind, you know, you have a book that you wrote. I’m just curious, man, you said there were a lot of people that came up to you along the journey and just said, Hey, man, maybe you should chill out? Like, who was the person who you actually heard say that? And once you actually heard it, like, what was that transition for you? Because it sounds like you were like, it sounds like you’re about that life for a minute. And something shifted. And I’m just wondering, like, what, what was that for you? Um,

Sherman Perryman 18:27
I don’t even think about it. I feel like it was probably like a multitude of people. But honestly, man, it all starts with yourself, you know, it’s like, you have to convince yourself that this is not cool. This is not the way you know, if you go to a club, and you know, within 45 minutes of the club starting, there’s a big fight, and you’re involved in it. You know, it’s like, maybe you should probably not, I mean, maybe you should try to chill out, you know, but then, you know, I became a father, I have four kids. And so I tend to, like, you know, change my lifestyle. You know, this would be like a stronger person. You know what I mean? And this is your

Kary Youman 19:07
first kid, like, kind of shifted or did it take a while, because you said you have kids, but like, yeah, kids?

Sherman Perryman 19:13
Um, yeah, I would say my, when my first kid came, I shifted, because I didn’t have time to partake in activities with my friends like that, like, I couldn’t go to the clubs, I couldn’t go out. I couldn’t drink. Like, I had to work. You know, like, I had a different responsibility than my peers. I got my first kid at 27. And, you know, during that time, it was like, straight out of the recession. So a lot of people still weren’t working. And a lot of people weren’t really, you know, active, you know, so it’s like, some people were just hanging out not doing anything. But luckily for me, I got a job at Wells Fargo that was able to help me provide for my child’s mother and my child at the time, you know, so I had to basically change my life so I’m not I got to say like, I was sober at that time, because, you know, there was a time after that where I drank a lot, you know, like at a company holiday party. I drank so much that I threw up in the parking lot, you know? So, yeah,

Kary Youman 20:13
those holiday parties when those Oh powers Oh,

Sherman Perryman 20:17
hey, what come on open bars. Uh, you know, I treat take a shot, take a shot, take a shot. And so was so bad. You know, I knew Okay, now I’m just be all the way on it. So drinking Joe. cultures are different in different demographics is different. Yeah. So, um, African American black, you know, grew up around black people. When I went to the holiday party, there was white people and Asians. Now why people? The way they drink is totally different than the way we drink. Wow. That’s why people for sure, bro, is that it was like crazy. Like say they have no like, say with us, right will be like, just drink if you drink dark stick with dark. them. They’re like, Oh, we don’t give a fuck dark, light, whatever. Like we just taking shots. Like, it was crazy. I say my my tolerance versus their tolerance was totally different. Because after afterwards, I was like, Man, I need to go home. They’re like, fuck that. Let’s go to another party. I was like, What the fuck? No, like, I just threw up I go crazy. Yeah, it’s like a different, you know, different society, you know, or cultural norms around drinking. And I remember going somewhere with them. And they were drunk. And they were like, you know, we’re going to sign to somebody else’s house. Right? And I didn’t really drink that much. But the guy whose house it was was offended that they were going in the, the his refrigerator, just eating and drinking things, right. And so the guy was like, Hey, man, I don’t know who you guys were like he was tripping. And for me, I was like, Look, man, I’m not trying to get in no fight in a white man’s house in Orange County. You know what I’m saying? Like, I’m the only black guy here. I don’t try. You know, I’m like, No, fuck that. Like, hey, let’s just go you know? And they’re like, no, we want to go back in and fight. I’m like, no, no, go aside anybody’s house right now. Like, are you crazy? Like, because we’re not at house parties we’re on because the people who hosted the parties had guns on you know, it was like, Nah, man, if anybody comes in here tripping, we got some forum. So, you know, my philosophy was like, Nah, man, like, have y’all lost your mind? Like, no, no, let’s go. I’m not going in there at all. Because if the police come here, and you know, I’m gonna be sticking out like a sore thumb. So no, fuck that. You’re not gonna use me to like, you know, further this agenda just because you got a black man that’s female that no, not, you know what I’m saying? So here, yeah, yeah. You know, so deal with that man, that was, you know, it was story after story. But then it’s like, in order for you to not put yourself in these types of situations, you’ve kind of got to cut certain lifestyles and certain things off cold turkey, you know, because like Joey said earlier, you know, it’s like, drinking is an American norm. Ya know, it’s like, especially for

JM Guthrie 23:18
white people, right? You say what, especially for the white people, all the things, man, oh, man, the dark drinks, the white drinks, the beard, everything.

Sherman Perryman 23:26
It’s like, say, for the company, I work for a real estate, commercial real estate firm. You know, winning an award is like winning a wine bottle, you know? Or like, hey, is

JM Guthrie 23:36
this lengthy bottle of liquor? Yeah, it’s

Sherman Perryman 23:39
just different. You know, it’s like a lot of alcohol, a lot of drinking. And, you know, I just feel like, it takes a lot of discipline for anyone, just to cut it out. Because you’re gonna go with the herd, you know, the herd mentality amongst humans is like a real thing. You know, like, if everybody with you is getting high off of something more than likely, you’re gonna try it too. You know? So it’s like, no one could really tell you, you know, like, Hey, man, this is really your conviction with yourself by saying no, I don’t drink. Because even when will you say that people are gonna be like, oh, man, just have a little, you know,

Joe Quattrone 24:18
shots to timeout. So. So how long has it been since you’ve had a drink? And how different was it at that moment of time? Because I mean, I know I stopped drinking in 2018. And there was nothing to substitute. There was no good non-alcoholic beer or anything like that. When did you quit drinking? And how have you been able to cope with it since then? Or like how easy has it been 2017

Sherman Perryman 24:40
Now say, if I was to have a drink, there would probably be something like a Mojito, which is nothing. You know, to me like one Mojito versus like when I used to just take shots just to feel drunk or whatever, you know. So if I say If you’re somewhere and you’re like, oh, man, I’ll just have a, you know, Long Island or some I really wouldn’t think that that was, you know, like, we all know that that’s nothing. That’s not going to do.

Kary Youman 25:10
Well, it depends on who’s making that Long Island sheriff.

Sherman Perryman 25:14
But then it’s like, I haven’t felt drunk. In school we got 1016 or 15. It’s been a while since I’ve been like, oh, you know what I mean, but 2017 is when I was like, Nah, I’m gonna really be disciplined to cut this out. So it’s almost been like seven years. Congratulations.

Kary Youman 25:34
Thanks. Awesome. Yeah, did the militant grind come out of that decision? Or had the militant grind already come up? And can you talk a little bit more about the militant grind for for the listeners who may not know, it’s

Sherman Perryman 25:45
kind of interesting, man, because the whole name came out of like, there I don’t really even remember how I even thought of it, or whatever. I think that I was just trying to create a brand that mostly resonated with me and who I am. And it’s like, okay, when somebody thinks about me, what type of person do they think of? You know, so I’ve always been a militant person, or always been like, a businessman or hustler, someone would say, so I was like, Okay, maybe militant grind resonates with me more than anything, because I say I started plenty of businesses. And you know, when you talk about your business with people that certain businesses that you start with people that, you know, you can kind of feel like that you kind of feel that energy, where it’s like, they’re not really filling it for you, you know, but then when I started militant grind, it was like, everybody was like, oh, no, this is you. Like, if anybody’s militant is this guy, I remember back in the day, man, when you guys were waking up at eight o’clock, you know, and that no, no, earlier now, we will be outside at eight o’clock working in the yard, like I’m talking about, my dad was so militant. While he was in the army, my grandfather was in the Navy. And, you know, it’s just like a dominant militant, you know, alpha male type of environment that I grew up in. And it’s hard for me to shake it, because that’s what makes me so I was thinking like, okay, what’s the most authentic version of me that I can give to the world? And is that, you know, and this was just like, a few months ago, so it really didn’t come about because I feel like during that time, I was really just trying to figure out, okay, what fits me best? And what can I do? You know, this is, I would say, Okay, let me go back. So, I would always know that, you know, you should find something that you love that you can do. But with limited opportunities growing up in the inner city, I really didn’t know what that was. Because I’ve only seen people work for the county for the state. You know, like, you guys being in DC, everybody works for the government, probably, you know, the federal government more than likely. So I was like, What can I do that I really love that I could wake up and do every day. Now, I was doing taxes, like I’m in the financial space as well. And I’ve noticed that most of the people who are my clients, they come to me as a life coach or an advisor. And I’m talking about like, a girl came in my office while I’m doing her taxes and asked me shall should do I think she should get a BBL, you know, and I was

Kary Youman 28:28
okay. Like, okay, the Brazilians. Oh, so

Sherman Perryman 28:32
it was like, and I’m talking and I had, like, wow, conversations and stuff. And, you know, sometimes people will be like, you know, I would rather meet you in person, but they will meet me in person, just so I can advise them on something, you know, and I actually liked doing it. And so once I figured that out, I was like, I need to make a business out of something that I could do, where I can actually, like, help people and feel fulfilled for doing it. And I won’t have like a guilt, you know, of for doing what I do, or I will have a low morale, because a lot of times in certain industries, especially sales, it’s more so like, you go out there, you eat what you kill, and you have to kill and it doesn’t matter how the person feels after whatever, just get it done. And you know, collect, you know what I’m saying? So, that was more so my mentality. Well, no, it wasn’t myself. Basically, that was the mentality that I had to have in order to be successful. But my morale was telling me, you know, Nah, man, I really don’t like this, this isn’t for you. You know, like it will I will feel guilty for some of the things that I would have to do. And I felt like with that, I wasn’t able to really be as successful in certain industries. Now, I’m super successful in industries where I feel like I can actually help somebody because I feel genuine about it. Now some people have the talent to go into industries and manipulate themselves into thinking that they’re helping people just because they’re selfish. You know what I’m saying but I’ve never been that way. So if I feel like I’m taking advantage of somebody or given something like, you know, or not giving the amount of value that they deserve for what they’re paying me for, I really like it’ll hit me, you know. So that’s when I was like, Okay, I need to come up with a personal brand, and a business that I can control where there’s no intermediaries in the business that can control me. So having my real estate license, my insurance license, my tax license, and all of these licenses, the intermediary is the government and the state. You know, they can say, No, you can’t work, or you have to pay this fee to work and all of these other things, and I’m like, Man, I’m tired of being controlled. So in what way? Can I really have the ultimate freedom to do business? How do I want to do business? You know, and so that’s when I came up with this. And within? Well, it’s in grind of coaching, I wrote a book, you know, I have merch, I just have different things that I could put out there to actually like, help people and I have a podcast as well, you know, so

Joe Quattrone 31:04
If you were to see somebody that had gotten some merchandise off of your website, and you saw them walking down the street, what do you think are some values that that person is going to be espousing? What do you think that they picked up from your content that the rest of our audience can pick up on? Um,

Sherman Perryman 31:21
because I feel like if you have something that says militant grind on your body, you have to be a sharp person. And I was asked this question, like, what is being militant mean to you? And is more so just like, being in control of your values and your objective, because if you think of a militant person, or somebody in the military, or soldier, etc, or anything like that, you’re not thinking about somebody that just goes with the flow, you know, or somebody else just like, talks, he’s gonna lie. Oh, no, this man is serious. If I told you, I’m going to introduce you to a sergeant in the military, you’re not going to come up to him like, hey, well, so dude, you know, like, what’s going on, you’re gonna die. Oh, shit, I have to be respectful to this person. Because I know they’re serious. You know. So that’s, so that’s basically what I left what I think will embody that person. Because even some of my friends that do wear the merch, and have bought the merch, they have all been like very serious people about their crafts, I’m talking about from doctors, to business owners to you know, like a plethora of people, even some people in the Marines and man like, oh, all over, you know,

Joe Quattrone 32:31
That’s what I was kind of picking up on, like, in order to kind of throw that terminology around, you gotta be somebody that’s willing to sell sacrifice, or sacrifice for something bigger than yourself are. You know, that’s really cool. I like that. I like that a lot.

Kary Youman 32:46
Thank you. Yeah. And just kind of transitioning from that, you know, with your podcast, you know, you talk about becoming the best version of you, I had a chance to do a talk not too long ago, and I was speaking about being the best version of yourself, I think is really important. And I think it also ties into this MeTotal theme. You know, when someone’s working with you, Sherman, whether it’s a coaching client, or you’re just working with someone in general, like, how do you help someone to uncover the best version of themselves? Like, I know, you have the podcast, you have your book, you have your pillars? Like, can you kind of walk our audience through without giving them too much of just your process? Yeah, you can kind of take someone from where they are to really thrive. Okay,

Sherman Perryman 33:24
so say, for me, right? I say, if I already know the person, and they come up to me, basically, you can kind of observe somebody and know what’s right for them, but then they necessarily don’t know what’s right for themselves. Because as I say, if someone comes up to me with an idea, and I’m like, come on, Megan, you know, you’re not going to do this shit. That’s not you, you know, you’re just looking at it for the money. Why would you even do this, you’re best at this. This is what you are, you’ve been posting online about herbs, but you know, like, different holistic ways of healing, etc. Why are you going to get into this? You’re not, that’s not even, you’re not even passionate about it. So once you like, in order for you to help somebody, you have to really get to know them in a way where it’s like, you’re looking at them from the outside looking in, and they have to know themselves. But then I push people to basically uncover who they are, who they really are not who they want to pretend to be. You know, because a lot of people want to pretend to be someone that they’re not, mostly because of monetary reasons. You know, I say I have a friend and I’m like, Man, why don’t you just get back into construction? You love that? You know, you enjoyed it like you woke up every day. He was happy. That was your thing? Why are you trying to do something else? You know,

Joe Quattrone 34:47
Do you get this insight about them? Just like, assuming it’s somebody that’s not like a deep personal friend to you. It’s just somebody you’ve met over the past couple of years. Are you getting this through just listening to them and the sessions You’re having or do you make them take any kind of personality quizzes? Like, you know? I don’t know, like,

Sherman Perryman 35:05
no, well, it really comes from like, because a lot of people post them mostly most about themselves on social media. So you get some insight from that. But um, you know, also asking questions as well. So one thing, one book that I’ve read that actually helped me discover true things about myself is called Discover your true north. So I would tend to ask people like, who did you want to be where you grew up? When you were a child, what type of person did you want to be? You know, because usually, that’s really who you are. Like, I say, Me, I wanted to be a lawyer, like I wanted to, I wanted to be a lawyer, bad, you know, I even started a political science major, but then it was like, Okay, why did I want to go into law is because I wanted to advocate for people and help people, I didn’t really want to go into it to be like, Okay, I’m making a lot of money. You know, like, that wasn’t my motivation. But then we tend to look at the field and like, what goes on, you’re like, Okay, now, I don’t really want to get into all of that, because that’s not me. But I could take the reasons on why I wanted to get into that field, and create something else. So I want to be a lawyer, I want to advocate for people, me one the best for people, I could still do that. But then in a different realm. So say, I have a friend that grew up and we’re growing up, he always wants to be the first black president, right? And so we were like, man, get the fuck out of here. But, you know, we just, we just let him talk. He went to Howard, he, you know, he’s in DC till this day. Now, he’s like, I don’t want to be the president. But he’s still helping people in the way that he wanted to help people. You know, due to the reasons why he wanted to become president. You know, it’s like, I want to be the president, because I want to help out my people or people period. He’s still helping people now. But he does want to be president. You know, so, so

Joe Quattrone 37:01
interesting, because I wanted to be an astronaut. And then I realized I was really bad at science and math. And I still feel like to this day I’m pursuing, do you know, going places that not a lot of people have gone, I want to build brands that, you know, have never been built before? And stuff like that. So I think that’s definitely pretty insightful. For sure. Yeah.

Sherman Perryman 37:20
Yeah. But that’s just one method. Just like everything. It’s not a one size fits all, you know, because I do, I do feel like a lot of people in order to uncover who they are, you just have to ask yourself certain questions, and then just really pinpoint it. You know, because I feel like in order to live a purposeful life, you have to do things that are kind of selfless. And it’s not all about, you know, like, there are people that do things for money, and they enjoy doing it. I have a friend that sells solar, he makes a lot of money. But he enjoys going into people’s houses, talking to them, you know, he could go door knocking door to door if he wants to, that would freak me out. You know, I don’t want to go inside anybody’s house. I don’t want to knock on their door, talk to them. That’s not me at all, you know, but I could manipulate myself to be like, Man, he made $50,000 Last month, man, you should do it too. Knowing that you do not want to do that at all, like, especially if I go inside somebody’s house, and they offer me something to drink. I’ll be like, Oh, shit, what the fuck? Like, I hope this is a clean glass, like, Where’d they get this water from? etc. You know, like, that’s the type of person I am. He’s the type. Oh, yeah, man. Hey, how’s it going to play with the dog? Hey, what’s up? Hey, there’s your kids. You know, like, that’s his personality. You know, but then that, and I did try to do solar before. And I absolutely, like it horrified me, you know, but there were some people that were super successful, but then it was like, you’re trying to put yourself in a position to do something. That’s not really you. And that’s why you keep failing.

JM Guthrie 38:57
So that incident, I think, yes, so. So it’s interesting listening to you talk about it, because obviously, helping people to find their Northstar, using your book example, or their passion is, is clearly the intent. And I think we would all agree that when you enjoy what you’re doing, you get so much more out of it, whether it’s monetary or not, right? Is it a question that you’re asking them? Is it an experience that you’re driving off of? I mean, obviously, at the end of the day, you need to help that person to find that path. So is it encouraging them through questions and inquiry and helping them to find that? Is it sharing examples of other people? What have you found to be the most effective in helping people to get on to that grind?

Sherman Perryman 39:43
I would ask questions. And then I say if you say to somebody, Listen, tell me. Hey, man, I want to lose weight, you know, but I don’t know what to do. I’m like, man, you know exactly what the fuck you need to do a little sway SoftLayer with me? What is stopping you from Doing it is easy to go online and figure out a diet and workout like, you’re 30 something years old, you know, you know what you have to do? So let’s figure out what’s stopping you from actually doing it. You know, and I hit people in the gut man, like, I’m like, I’m not the, you know, like I say, for some people, you know, they’ll hit me up to three months later and be like, Wow, you were telling me the truth, but I just didn’t know how to handle it at the time. You know, so that happens to me a lot. And these are just like friends. You know what I’m saying? They’ll be like, Oh, well, what do you think? And I’ll tell them the truth. I’m like, Nah, that’s not. But then after it comes into fruition, they’re like, Oh, okay. You know, so it’s like, really digging deep and asking people questions to get their insight on, like, who they are and why they’re doing what they do, or why they want it. You know what I mean? So it’s like, okay, I want to work out. And I want to say, I’m okay, well, why do you want that? Why haven’t you done it already? What are you doing every night? Are you watching Netflix? Are you doing this? Are you doing that? You could go instead of doing that you could go to the gym? So why don’t you go into the gym?

JM Guthrie 41:08
It’s interesting, because Kary always says self reflection is a big part of MeTotal, right? So at the end of the day, it’s about reflecting on yourself, and understanding who you want to be. And I hear a lot of these themes with you talking about the passion, and getting the most out of things, but also getting the right direction. And the thing that’s, I think, really been most interesting to me today, in this conversation, is how aligned, what we’re talking about with MeTotal are sort of finding that Northstar again, using your example, goes right into the grind. Because the reality is once you find it, all the questions that you’re asking, you then have to actually execute and it truly is a day at a time because it’s very easy to go backwards. Yeah. So there’s an awesome sort of transition into that. Right, once you have them on that path. What is it that you talked to them about about staying on the grind? Is it the theme of being militant? Is it being sharp? Like you said, you know, what are the inputs that you give them to try to keep going? Well, firstly, that they get, yeah,

Sherman Perryman 42:09
Is this really the ultimate? Why? You know, so it’s like, why do you want these things and if you want them bad enough, you will actually do it. And then I’m not going to tell you that you should, you know, do anything that I’d like, maybe you want to get bigger shoulders and a bigger chest. But then it’s like, if you really don’t want that, stop bullshitting with yourself, and then just say you don’t want it, it’s okay. Maybe you’ll be better off swimming, you know, maybe you’ll be better off a jogger or a hiker or something like that. So first it’s like finding something that they will enjoy doing that they really want to do. You know, so I’m the type of guy to go to the gym and do bodybuilding. I’m not going to say, Man, you look weak, maybe you should do the same thing to like, no, he might like CrossFit, you know, that person might like something different. So everything is just basically like, individualized to that specific person. And it has to be like something that they could consistently see themselves doing. You know, so

Joe Quattrone 43:12
Do you find that being a father for a father of four, you need to stay on this grind more than other people? Or else it’s gonna kind of come falling apart? I mean, I sometimes feel like I have to be on something of a quest or a grind, or else things could come unhinged. And

Sherman Perryman 43:30
yeah, I’m, well, yeah, but then it’s also I’m a firm believer in that the kids will never see well hear what you say. They will more than likely see what you do. You know, so say my daughter was to call me right now, show you the thing that I’m working or in the gym. That’s the only thing she sees her daddy doing every day. So what does she like to do? She likes to go to the gym. And she went to the gym with me. She was pushing me. I was pushing her and she loved it. But and but I was working out in front of her like say when she was a baby. I will have her in her car seat. And I would do insanity in front of the TV. You know, while she’s a baby watching sanity, you know, you know hard and Saturday. Well,

44:14
Christy is that yeah.

Sherman Perryman 44:16
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Things are gone. Yeah. Yeah. So it’s like, that’s what she’s used to seeing. So, you know, it’s like, I have to be this person. So say even the last Spartan Race I went to I brought my family there. And they were just sitting there chillin and next thing you know, they saw my kid saw me running, you know, up through these obstacles, and they lost their mind. I have never seen them. So excited in my life

Kary Youman 44:46
in there, can you share what the Spartan Race is for folks who don’t know what it is just a Spartan

Sherman Perryman 44:51
Race is basically a challenge. Where say the last one I did was a 5k and it was at the Angel Stadium in Anaheim. So I’m running in the stadium, doing obstacle courses, things like that. So it’s basically like a physical challenge with a mix of CrossFit in it and things of that nature. I think

JM Guthrie 45:11
American Gladiators, Yeah.

Sherman Perryman 45:15
Yeah maybe. You know, people combo I didn’t I don’t climb up the ropes. So I’m not. But people come up the robes and say things on their body while running around, you know, carrying heavy, heavy sandbags and stuff like that carrying water bags is brutal, you know, but it was just so fulfilling to see my kids yelling, screaming. I mean, they even ran on the course. And I was like, no call back over there. I’m talking about how they were losing it, love and then it was just like, what do you think about the type of joy that I’m bringing them? Them seeing their dad looking like a superhero running down. You know, like I say they’re into superheroes. My son’s into Spider Man, my daughter’s into Spider Woman, all this stuff. So imagine them being able to look up to their dad being that, you know, congratulations, man. Yeah, man. It was the best feeling ever and it was so crazy that people were coming up to me after the race. I was like those were your kids. Oh my god. That was the DOT’s wishes. People have moved

JM Guthrie 46:20
me along. Yeah, love. Yes, your daughter out there. Like dig deeper was now with Shaun T would say like, dig deeper. Right? Like, you can do it,

Sherman Perryman 46:31
Daddy, you can do it. Come on, daddy, you got this, you know, and so, you know, like, that’s, that’s fulfilling for me, man. Like, it’s good for them to see me doing something that they’re rooting for. You know, so it’s like, yeah, in order for me to be more accountable, I think of moments like that. You know, because it’s like, one day, we could do it together as a family, you know, one day they will be able to join me. And in order for you to preach great things to them, health and all of that. You have to be an embodiment of it. You know, like, you have to show them that like, man, look at show dad and look at you. Why are you fucked up? Because he’s living he’s, he’s basically living the way that he’s telling you to live. So, since

JM Guthrie 47:18
all of our listeners see what you do, I love that.

Joe Quattrone 47:21
I think he’s convinced all of our listeners to go sign up for half marathons. So congratulations.

Sherman Perryman 47:26
Yeah, man, but you know, but you know, it’s also doing things to just like, constantly challenge yourself, you know, so I pay to challenge myself. Yes, I do. You know, because once you conquer it, it’s like a testament of like, Ah, I did it. You know, I got something to show my daddy, what are those medals right there? Oh, yeah, I did the Spartan Races. Oh, my dad did the Spartan Races. What did your dad do?

Kary Youman 47:51
Yeah, you know, challenges. Sherman, I see you have like a seven day challenge on your website? Is it for a specific challenge? What kind of person might be drawn to something like that? And what is it? What does it consist of,

Sherman Perryman 48:04
um, so for us all personalized. So basically, I will come up with a diet plan and a workout plan for them for seven days, based on what they want to achieve. So it just basically gives them a gist of how I operate the fitness realm of the militant grind.

Kary Youman 48:20
Okay, so you’re not training them for the Spartan Race or anything like Nah, man,

Sherman Perryman 48:24
That’s a whole different type of thing, man. And then, you know, it just depends on the Spartan Race. So they’re doing what I did last year called The Big Bear beast, which is in Big Bear, California is in a mountain terrain, you know, mile high, while would definitely have a whole different program for them, bro. That was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. Like, I’m talking about praying, you know, like asking God for strength. I’m talking like it was crazy. You know, I’m in LA. So I’m at sea level. So going to a big beer, you know, now it’s at a high altitude, and I couldn’t breathe, you know. So like, I would take eight steps and be out of breath. I’m sitting on a mountain trying to catch my breath. Another eight. And it was a 15 mile race. Wow.

Kary Youman 49:16
How did you train for that altitude?

Sherman Perryman 49:18
Man, I didn’t do that when I first did it. I did not. But if I was to basically do it again, I’ll say okay, I’m gonna run up these hills with an altitude mask on, you know, just so I could get my blood cells, you know, ready for that? Or I’ll probably just spend like a couple days up there just so I could get used to the thin air you know, because it’s you I’ve read that some of the people that train for life cycle races and stuff like that. They’ll be in an oxygen chamber or there’ll be on a high altitude for a couple days so their body could get used to it as much as wasn’t at all because it was crazy like seeing someone already run right past you and you’re just sitting there out of breath. You know, it’s not that you’re tired or anything. It’s just like you literally cannot breathe. You know?

JM Guthrie 50:08
Wow, I think the NFL teams usually go to Denver at least a day early for that. Yeah. Right. So every other place that they go Yeah, day early for athletes so they get acclimated for the Denver game. Yep. Well, Sherman,

Kary Youman 50:22
how’d you get through it? Man? You said you couldn’t breathe. It was 15 Miles

JM Guthrie 50:25
eight steps at a time, man. Yeah,

Sherman Perryman 50:27
man. It was, Well, honestly, I felt like it cuz I talked to my friend about it. He was doing it with me. And we felt like it was more so like, I say, when you’re put in situations that you feel like you have no out I feel like God or the universe or whatever will create things for you to help you get through. So say like, there were people along the way. That was like, Hey, man, do you need any sugar cubes or something for energy? Or, hey, you have a cramp? I have these mustard packs, or, Hey, do you want some chicken? You know, it was like, it was like that I basically the people that were there, they already prepared. Me. I was like, I have nothing for cramps. I have nothing for dehydration. I don’t have anything for you know, basically all the things that I’ve needed, but, you know, thank God that those things were supplied to me while doing the race. You know, and I had people to push me to carry on while I was doing the race. You know, because I was in a very vulnerable state. You know, it’s like, when you’re down as somebody that’s like, Come on, man. You could do it bro. Keep pushing. Man. You’re like we are one of the you know, we’re one of the top people in America you know are in the world just because we’re doing this right now. You know, come on, you could go keep pushing.

Joe Quattrone 51:45
less than 1% of people in the entire world have abs like a six pack? Yeah,

Kary Youman 51:52
like noticeable ABS I think.

Sherman Perryman 51:55
Yeah, so specifically, right so it’s like you know, hearing these things man getting encourage having people supply you things that you need along the way, man, that really helped me a lot, you know, and I really had to dig deep in my mind to Shaunti dig

JM Guthrie 52:12
deep dog. Yeah, maca, Insanity, deeper lab now

Sherman Perryman 52:16
I allowed myself to like there was a rest break like an area map and I was exhausted. And all assignment I have like 1213 miles to go. You know? And if anybody wanted to quit at mile two, I would definitely understand. Trust me, I would be like, mash it. I feel you. But then what was the word track seven?

Kary Youman 52:38
Like how did you like what did you have to kind of tell yourself to keep going?

Sherman Perryman 52:42
Yo, punk ass ain’t leaving here without a metal but, man, Nah, man. Like I’m very brutal with myself, bro. Like, um, you know, the way I talk to myself is like, Damn, you know, I have a drill sergeant in my mind, though, you know, during that tunnel was like, you know, leaving here without getting that met. I’ll go fuck what you’re thinking. Are

Joe Quattrone 53:05
Have you ever? Do you ever listen to Jocko or Goggins or any of those guys and pump it?

Sherman Perryman 53:10
May Goggins is, yeah, I mean Goggins

Joe Quattrone 53:14
same stuff over and over again,

Sherman Perryman 53:15
there’s like dander the stuff that I’ve heard growing up, you know, it’s like, it’s not really, it’s not really a big deal. I say, my brother, he’s high ranking in army right now. He’s a sergeant. And so he, when he went to basic training, he was I met, this is nothing for me, like, you know, people were quitting. And I can’t do this for him. He was like, oh, man, this is, this is almost how we grew up, you know. So, yeah, so that internal. So this means say, like, your internal dialogue, which is your higher self, you have to create that person in you, that has brutally honest, that doesn’t take no bullshit that wants the best for you, that’s gonna push you to be great. You know? So it’s like, if you create, because I feel like we all create entities in our head, that advise us, right? And I often tell people, the worst person that you want to lie to is yourself. Right? You know, and when you leave and go to this earth, I mean, leave out leave this earth, you cannot lie to God. God knows. You know, like, He knows your deepest, darkest secrets that you wouldn’t tell a soul. You know, some of the things that have you done. So why are you bullshitting yourself? You know, tell yourself if you want to get that metal, if you want to accomplish it, getting your mind, you know, and push yourself to accomplish it. Because like, it’s not that I was on there and saying, I don’t want to feel like I didn’t want to finish, you know, period. You know, but then there were people turning around saying, No, we’re not going to do this anymore. It’s just too much. But me on my No, I want that metal. So people detail about, Oh, hell yeah. I mean, he’s seeing people, people, man, people were getting injured. The ambulance was up there. Like it was crazy. Is the man like it was serious? Wow. Like you could go on YouTube and look up the Big Bear beasts and you will you will not hear a pretty story about it at all. For me, man unless

Kary Youman 55:09
I was just legitimately hurt. I just don’t see how someone could make it that far and find a way to quit. Like,

Sherman Perryman 55:16
oh yeah, man, depending on the pants, man because some people were, you know, they had anxiety, they were going into shock they were to tire because it’s like you have to really condition your mind for something like that. I feel like it is more so mental than it is physical. Well, you know, me

JM Guthrie 55:34
total man. That’s it. But he just talked about that. Right that that language to yourself, whatever that narrative is, whether it’s the drill sergeant, I think I’m a little bit more compassionate with myself, but I certainly have that voice that says, Oh, hell no, we’re not stopping. We’re going. And that’s what we’re all about here. Yeah, tough love is tough love getting to that spot of MeTotal to get you through the Big Bear beast, or to not pick up that next flask of V and J. Right to hit the next round Ashanti’s insanity. That’s Shaun T.

Kary Youman 56:07
Christie. Yeah,

JM Guthrie 56:09
That’s what this show is all about. Man. I love that. Yeah, really? Well,

Joe Quattrone 56:13
that’s a good, that’s a good transition and good place to kind of put a pin in it real quick. We do want to do two quick things. Sherman, tell the audience where they can find you. Is there a website? Is there a social media account you want to point them to?

Kary Youman 56:26
Yeah, we also haven’t asked him really about his book, it will be called maybe if you can just talk a little bit about the bookshelf and kind of just how that came to be okay.

Sherman Perryman 56:33
Yeah, no problem. All right. So here’s my book, from grit to greatness, harnessing the five pillars of the militant grind. So basically, thank you, thank you, Max created that myself, too. So basically, I had to create a foundation of the militant grind and more so like a creed, right? And so it first started off with, okay, what are some main things that you want to basically put out there? And so I came up with five pillars, which is love, honor, shrimp discipline, wisdom, and it was supposed to be like a, you know, couple paragraphs, but then I was like, You know what, I could really expand on this, and give a lot more insight on this. And so I was like, instead of just creating like a small little ebook, or whatever, I can actually create a book about this, and, you know, give this to people. So it’s a short, quick read. But I feel like it’s impactful because I’m talking about personal stories that I went through stories about Kobe, Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Samson in the Bible, King Solomon in the Bible, Carl Bashir as well, which is the first black US Navy dive. I’m not sure but I’m a Navy Diver. So I learned about him from the movie men of honor starring Cuba Gooding Jr, Robert DeNiro. So that story really inspired me. So I included him in the honor section of the book, you know, and I give examples on how to be honorable and why is it important to be honorable, and love being the first one, and we go back to that is basically like, how do we love ourselves, self love, familial love, what type of love etc. And love is first, because without you being able to love yourself, it’s hard to do anything else. Because love is the most important driver in the world. Love could cause people to do great things and love would cause people to do horrible things. You know? Yeah. So that’s, that’s basically what it’s about, man. You know, I’ve got great accolades about it, which is kind of surprising. So, you know, because it’s, uh, you never know how well anything is gonna do. But the feedback that I’ve gotten on this book has been like, you know, brilliant for me, you know, gratulations

Kary Youman 58:46
check it out, man. That Spartan Race. I know, that was challenging, but writing a book. I mean, everybody wants to write a book about Bavaria, you know, 1% 2% of people actually write I mean, was it? Was it kind of like a form of therapy for you to write the book? Like, was that easy for you? Like, how long was that process?

Sherman Perryman 59:04
Um, well, it took just because I’m very hard on myself. Like, as we talked about before, it took me a few weeks because I say, Oh, this is what how I would do it. I’ll just write write whatever comes to my mind. I’ll just write. And then after that, you read it again. And you’re like, What the fuck is this? You know, so you’ll go back and edit it. And then you, you know, say, I will write it one one day, and then I’ll give myself a week just to let it sit, and then read it again. And then be like, Nah, man, I’ll like this. And you know, because as you go, and you start to think about more ideas, you get more insightful, etc. So, I’ve probably written it over, like four times, you know what I’m saying? But then I was like, You know what, I’m just gonna stop and put this out there. And just let it go, you know, because I didn’t want to be too critical on myself and just keep jabbing and jab and jab and so I was just like, okay, cool, then You know, it was it was very therapeutic for me, because I’m the type of personnel, right? Like, you know, a story on Facebook, like I could break down a situation, you know, and write these long Facebook statuses that are very insightful. And I’ve always wanted to be a writer, you know, like an author. And it was crazy, because the other day, I was like, taking out my trash. And this lady was walking by with her dog, and not of all people, she said that I could look like she was like, You look like an author. And I was like, What the fuck? You know, because I got dreadlocks, you know, I’m a buff guy had on my, you know, my cut off sleeves, I’m looking all strong. And I’m like, out of all things. You said, I look like a author. And I was like, Okay, fuck it. And maybe this is just the universe telling me that I need to get into this, you know, so I actually got another book that I’m writing called, no more pain. And it basically is breaking down some of the things that a lot of people in the inner city go through that they don’t have, basically that they don’t have the outlets to, like, overcome a lot of the traumas that they go through. So there’s a lot of people I grew up with, you know, growing up in LA, being born in the 80s, her parents were on drugs, they were in foster care to live with their grandmother. And these were necessarily like really good people, but they just had no outlets or no therapeutic ways to get over a lot of the trauma that they went through. So some of them fell victim to drugs, alcohol, gain life and things like that, because I look at it like this a lot of people aren’t necessarily bad, they just don’t know how to handle a lot of the pain and the trauma that they go through so they partake in certain activities. So this inspired me to write a book called No More pain.

Kary Youman 1:01:49
Awesome. That sounds powerful Sherman. Yeah, I grew up in the 80s in LA as well. We lived in the jungle and we moved down when I was like seven so I think my life would probably be very different if I was still there, so I fall

Sherman Perryman 1:02:00
Yeah, yeah, man so that’s crazy because I went to Crenshaw High School so yeah, you wish you wouldn’t want to Dorsey you would have been the enemy

1:02:08
yeah

Sherman Perryman 1:02:11
so basically the high school for his home school was like a big time rival to the high school I went to I’m talking about the gangs being the school and

Kary Youman 1:02:21
hurting them pretty much guys Yeah, right.

Sherman Perryman 1:02:25
This war you know, but it’s

Joe Quattrone 1:02:29
Yeah, man. It was crazy. You want to Crenshaw Wow real quick before we get you out of here we do a segment every once in a while on the show called feet heat where we like to talk about the sneakers that are on our feet right and

Kary Youman 1:02:40
Warren Sherman may he may have some some flip flops on right now they

1:02:45
got put together real quick.

Joe Quattrone 1:02:48
So let’s go around Robert JMG what you got on your feet today?

JM Guthrie 1:02:55
sticking to my theme, I’ve got some Nikes. These are cleansers from a co lab with us. I know that I’ve talked about these guys before union la skate shop out by Sherman. Is that

Kary Youman 1:03:09
canvas or leather what you got there player let

JM Guthrie 1:03:11
These are leather. Okay, so AJ CoreOS co lab with Union LA. All right.

Sherman Perryman 1:03:21
Clean. So I just have some workout shoes. I like you know, yeah, you know, you have to work on a flat you know, I’ve said yesterday, it’s

JM Guthrie 1:03:33
a persona. If you’d given me three guesses I probably wouldn’t come close to those. I love that. Our speaker guesses

Kary Youman 1:03:39
JM can we guess what joke he was getting on today?

JM Guthrie 1:03:44
Some sort of new balance with some different shape and oh no, no, I broke out the air fuzzies for air fuzzies today okay, tried

Kary Youman 1:03:52
and true. Tried and true. Well seen as you were a man, I was a little hesitant to pull these up as a tough crowd. But I’ve been exploring this whole barefoot movement thing. So these aren’t toe shoes. But these are like some with fins. I can’t get too much. I know they’re not too exciting. But it’s just like a flat shoe. super minimal. Super, super basic. It’s

JM Guthrie 1:04:19
been fun doing Darren lakes and

Sherman Perryman 1:04:21
if I knew y’all were doing this, I would have put on some Jordans

Kary Youman 1:04:25
all the time to bring you back to service. Because

Sherman Perryman 1:04:28
you know you’re a dad and you got to walk kids to school and do all kinds of stuff you kind of don’t

Joe Quattrone 1:04:32
want anywhere in Georgia.

Sherman Perryman 1:04:35
Most uncomfortable shoe. Comfortable.

Joe Quattrone 1:04:38
I wore these shoes for a whole day in Manhattan one day when I was going to see Gary last time I saw Garyun in June. And I texted these guys like during the day I was like how the fuck do people where Jordan was stuck in his feet? Michael Jordan was in all these games back in the 80s. This row listers,

Kary Youman 1:04:55
Georgia they got some rough feet man

1:05:00
Eliot Hey, I’m about

Sherman Perryman 1:05:02
comfort now because I fell for that. I’m like, Man, I could only wear Jordans if I’m going somewhere for like three hours.

Kary Youman 1:05:08
Yeah, yeah. And you got to be sitting down hopefully most of the time, right.

Joe Quattrone 1:05:15
All right, Sherman, thank you very much for joining us. You can go on your merry way. Me and the gentleman are going to sit here and we’re going to recap the episode for the audience and let people know what they can expect in the episode. I’ll email you when we have a date when this is going to go live and you can give us some assets to push out to your social network if you want. Okay,

Sherman Perryman 1:05:32
yeah, and again, um, people can find me on militantgrind.com all of my social links my book my YouTube channel with everything is on there so militant grind.com exactly how it sounds. So yeah, man, I want to thank you guys. I really appreciate it.

Kary Youman 1:05:47
Oh yeah, you too. Also, too. What is the other one? Daddy Warlocks that? Yeah,

Sherman Perryman 1:05:52
Daddy Warlocks is my alter ego. Instagram page, so you can find me on there too. That’s where I have a lot of my insightful stuff.

Kary Youman 1:06:02
Yeah, there’s some really cool stuff on here, man. The transformation is wild. You guys should definitely check it out. For sure.

Sherman Perryman 1:06:07
Thank you. Thank you, bro. Appreciate it. Man. This has been Sherman. Yes.

Kary Youman 1:06:11
We’ll have to connect with you online. Definitely inspire man. Thanks for sharing.

Sherman Perryman 1:06:15
All right, you guys. Have a great rest of your day. Take care.